Chat Room

21st December 2012 at 00:00
The latest chat from the TES Scotland forums

S4 subjects

Effinbankers: How many subjects will your fourth year be presented for in 2014 for the first set of Nationals? We still haven't decided - parents want greater choice, apparently local authority wants five or six. I would hate to have a family that has to relocate while a pupil is in S4. No consistency.

catmother: Not as many as the current S4s! The consequences for (our) jobs are pretty dire.

Effinbankers: Getting S2 or S3 to pick their Higher subjects is a no-no. What they were good at in lower secondary is not what they might be good at in two or three years' time. Think also of the in-fighting as departments compete for numbers; Englishmaths + 3 or 4 is a complete joke.

catmother: Eight Standard grades in S4 but only six Nationals from next year. I teach a subject that was compulsory up to S4. From next year, it will be an option. It's not looking good.

halfajack: What will happen to the brighter pupils who want to stay until S6? Sure, the middlebelow average will continue to use the opportunity to progress through levels, but what about those who achieve five Highers in fifth year, then have no Nats in other subjects to take forward? Is it part of the plan to discourage more able pupils from staying on in S6? Would mean fewer teachers required.

socrates82: I suspect the powers-that-be prefer teenagers to be in school rather than adding to the unemployment stats.

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