By way of introduction to The TES Scotland conversations, chair Ewan Aitken does a little turn when he asks each participant to tell everybody about their best memory of school.
At the most recent event in Glasgow, Alan McLean, educational psychologist in the city, said his was being taught by John Mulgrew, director of education in East Ayrshire. Is a job coming up?
Mulgrew himself said his was the one and only school prize he won, a book called The Road to Nowhere. Bernard McLeary, chief executive of Learning and Teaching Scotland, recalled "coming 17th in the cross-country run and thereby ending my PE education".
Finally Gordon Matheson, deputy convener of education with Glasgow City Council, said it was the look on Jim McVittie's face, when the then head of the St Stephen's High in Port Glasgow saw the junior secondary's debating team beat the posher all-through schools.
As usual, being an academic star was nowhere mentioned. Such memories.