Chatroom - Attempt to freeze - agreed pay deal

2nd October 2009 at 01:00

Posted by mydoll

I hear a council intends to ask Cosla to re-open negotiations so that they can seek to freeze the final instalment of our three-year pay deal!

Posted by catmother

It's all local authorities.

Posted by mydoll

It is ironic that councils resisted having a re-opener clause on T's three-year deal and are now seeking to re-open negotiations.

Posted by Piranha

It is interesting that they were happy for us to have pay rises below the private sector and RPI inflation, but don't like it when we might catch up.

Posted by sus419

What's even more irritating is that the work we are having to do has practically doubled since I started teaching. I know we are in the midst of a recession but how many people in other sectors work the hours we do and put up with what we have to?

Posted by catmother

You've got to laugh (or scream) when on the news they talk about the expectations of the "taxpayer" (aka, non-public-sector employee) as regards to what should happen to public-sector employees (ie, no pay rise, loss of secure pensions, working conditions). I did not realise public- sector employees did not pay taxes!

Posted by JPM1967

There is an argument that the pay of public-sector workers is paid for by the tax of private-sector workers. If no tax was recouped from the private sector, there would be no money to pay public-sector wages. Having worked in "non-public" sector for 20 years before teaching, I have sympathy for those who have seen pensions cut dramatically (final salary schemes closed, replaced by inferior and uncertain money-purchase schemes), while talk of changes to our unfunded public-sector pensions leads to threats of across-the-board industrial action and government backing off.

But under no circumstances should the unions renegotiate the current three-year deal. We will struggle to negotiate a decent wage rise, with threats and emotional blackmail from Cosla (pay rises for all versus redundancies versus jobs for NQTs).

Posted by catmother

That they will probably "let us" have the last stage of the pay deal will be used to blackmail teachers into accepting nothing or very little next time. Whatever gain was obtained from the McCrone deal is gone. The workload is increasing and we're doing more administrative tasks.

www.tes.co.ukscotland then Forums, Scotland, Pay conditions.

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